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never a disturbance at fortson's home. crump says fortson had been home alone just 30 minutes before the deputy arrived he heard two knocks at the door, and when he couldn't see anyone through the peephole, crump said citing the girlfriend, then forts and grabbed his gun, which crump said he legally owned in the girlfriend's facetime video, we hear forts and struggled to breathe after the shooting as he lies on the floor bleeding out the deputy is now on paid administrative leave while the florida department of law enforcement investigated state attorney's office and okaloosa county tells me that they're going to wait for the fda lee to finish its investigation before they decide whether to pursue charges. an earlier i got a hold of the chief assistant state attorney, their gregg anchors, and he's seen the video, but he refused to comment when i asked him to he
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also added that it's just too early for them to do anything with the case, saying that there's no expected timeline for the fda lead to finish. their investigation john all right. >> nick valencia. thank you so much. the newest continues to source with kaitlan. collins starts now strike from the source tonight, the calm before the cohen, donald trump about to come face to face with his former fixer. >> now arch enemy, what you expect when it all goes down starting on monday. but before then, an extraordinary warning from the judge today about michael cohen's big mouth. there are also new questions tonight about the killing of a black us service member shot by police and sayyed his own home seconds after the senior airman opened the door, that moment is captured on camera and it's shocking that airman's mother let's hear tonight along with their attorney, ben crump. and if a solar eclipse wasn't enough for you and extreme solar storm is hitting the planet right now. it is the
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biggest and more than two for decades with the potential to wreak havoc on our power grids and our gps systems while also putting on a spectacular light show. i'm kaitlan collins, and this is the source it has all been leading up to what is coming on monday. david pecker, hope picks stormy daniels, madeleine westerhout, who is donald trump's former white house gatekeeper, wrapping up her testimony today all of their testimony is laying the groundwork for, you know, who michael cohen expected to take the stand when the trump hush money trial resumes on monday and speak to them very payment he helped negotiate before the 2016 election. remember, he went to prison in connection with this payment and buckle up because this week was any indication it is going to be a scene. and cohen himself appears to be leaning in kinda looking forward to it because again, can't be finished with
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something unless you started today, the trump team asked the judge to place a gag order on michael cohen to stop him from doing what he is doing right there talking about this trial, they specifically pointed to this tiktok video of michael cohen on wednesday taunting the former president wearing a t-shirt. >> as you can see here, where donald trump is in an orange jumpsuit and standing behind bars. the judge denied the request by trump's legal team. he said that he can't gag witnesses, only the defendant here in this case, and even that's limited gag order but he did give michael cohen and extraordinary warning through prosecutors telling them to tell him to stop making any more statements about this case or about donald trump. he told him, quote, that comes from the bench. >> in other words, stop talking but that message to michael cohen did not go far enough for the defendant no gag order to michael. what the judge did. >> who is amazing? i actually
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was amazing. everybody gets say whatever they want they get to, whatever they want i'm not allowed to say anything about anybody. the judges and the only thing he gives us to make him look a little bit good. he gives us nothing. now, what he just did now is it's a discrete of course, some reminder, donald trump is the only defendant here, which is why he is the only one under a gag order if everything goes according to plan, the prosecution's as that they could rest their case as soon as next week. but first, we have to get through monday. and what that week is going to look like. my legal sources tonight are better in new york defense attorney or there aidala, cnn's senior legal analyst and a former federal prosecutor, elie honig, attorney and jury consultant or not as to beale and also a retired new york state supreme court judge. jill justice judge joe kohn visor. it's great to have you all here. >> elie, it kind of feels like we're looking the calm before the storm, like the eye of the storm of like we're just today
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hey, there was kinda like this apprehension looming over the courthouse of waiting for michael cohen, knowing what that could entail for monday. yeah, it was a catch our breath de right. we had stormy daniels then today we had a bunch of paralegals and phone company representatives. then michael cohen's coming in monday. i don't think i've ever seen a witness quite like michael cohen in a couple of respects. >> it's mostly going to be bad number one, i put on really bad guys as witnesses done far worse things that michael cohen's ever conceived up, but i've never put on a witness with as much of a credibility problem is michael cohen has who has lied to as many people for as long a time in his brazen away is michael cohen, also his bias that photo we just saw of him wearing of t-shirt with donald trump in an orange jumpsuit, that a load could be disqualified. three days ago, right? right. exactly after he said, by the way, i'm going to stop working off about this case. a juror could look at that and say, that's it. i don't i don't credit you because you are desperate for donald trump to go to prison that right, there is bias, but let me just say this. there is a redemption path for michael cohen if the jury believes what
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michael cohen says, which is when i turned on trump, i became a new person. i've turned a page in my book. i'm telling you that. yes, i did these bad things then i'm telling the truth now, there is some appeal to that narrative to well, i mean, the prosecution is hoping that is what he is exactly going to say. it is really important in there is no leeway, like there wasn't stormy daniels it's to say she wasn't really critical to this. michael cohen is critical to making their case. >> what ellie and i totally agree on is he is the case. in other words hypothetically, he doesn't show up monday and then the people say we rest our case. we agree that the judge would have to dismiss it. like there's not there hasn't been that piece of evidence. that number one connects trump to the bookkeeping. a number to connect some that we did this to commit a second crime because that's what they need. the fact that the shirt with him behind bars is exist is bad, but kaitlan, the fact that it exists like 48 hours ago is insane and just one other thing i want to talk what credibility and judge kohn visor will
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really elaborate on this when the judge charges the jury, when he gives him the law he's going to say, if you found that the witness lied to you about one thing, you can infer you're allowed to infer, you're allowed to disqualify all of their testimony. and i think the defense is going to have the ability to show that coleman lied about a lot of things. i mean, how charge also says if you found he find if you find that someone lied about something, you can discount their testimony. >> the charge also says you can dismiss the part that you do not credit and credit that much of the rest of it that you do credit. so it's a ban basically take a balance that and that's what the that's what the judge will do. that's the textbook standard. than energy. >> what judge more sean did your today at the end where he was like, i'm not gonna put a gag or on michael cohen he's a witness here. but to deliver a message from the bench to a witness, is that rare? how often does that? >> in exceedingly rare, but this case is different for so
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many reasons. we've talked about that. you have a witness mouthing off and you know, as as elie said, he's put on some bad guys. we've all seen guys cooperate in criminal cases who have three murder, three murder convictions were admitting to do horrible things this guy has an impulse problem. he's a lot like donald trump they can't control themselves. and that's probably where they were embed together for all those years figuratively as a defense lawyer, don't you love that? >> he keeps talking, don't you wanted to i mean, you don't want to get to please keep doing it, keep doing dude all weekend because it's just more ammunition for the cross-examination that's a good point. the defense is lovingness. todd blanche is so frustrated in court. >> he's like, how are we to do this with michael cohen keeps talking, you're saying it can actually work to their benefit. >> i think it is going to work to their benefit because they have so much to go after him on and look his job on monday and tuesday when it gets cross-examined, is whenever you get cross-examined, you're
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going to take punches and i hopefully he's been trained well enough to absorb those blogs. he just can't get knocked out, right? it's like a boxing match. you're going to get punched in the face on cross, but he can't fight too much. he has to just absorb all of the things, all of the leinz and just saying yes, yes. and keep it moving what does what does the prosecution hope that he does in order your jury consultant, you've worked with a lot of juries before to make him appeal to that jury. that's sitting this far from it. >> i don't ever be appealing, but if i were advising him and if i were prepping him, i would say, look, you have to just take it don't fight, don't try and minimize, don't try and deflect, don't try and justify all the leinz, all the things you did, just say yes, because it takes the air out of the cross-examination when you give one word answers, when you just say yes, there's no place to go, you know that right? >> in other words, what you can make good, yes. did you lie? he's just going to say that. yes. yes. did you do time notice really? yes. yes. >> the best-case best-case. >> we don't know if know he's not gonna do that and i'll give
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you an example. i'll give you a specific example. he pled guilty in 2018 two, four sets of crimes, including bank fraud and tax fraud. now, michael cohen loves this narrative that i only ever committed crimes within for donald trump. not true. tax fraud, bank fraud had nothing to do with donald trump had to do with his taxicab medallion business, his own personal taxes. so the answer as arthur recommend should be, did you plead guilty to bank fraud? yes. were you guilty of bank fraud? yes. that's not what he's going to say. because, he was examined on civil case. he goes, no, i'm actually not guilty. i actually lied under oath to judge pauley when i pled guilty, it's like lies upon lie. >> right. the next question is, how many times a gi where you're lying this time relying that time until at some point the scales are going to accept federal judge jesse furman, who i used to work with southern district, a liberal guy on a barack obama appointee issued a ruling a month or two months ago saying either michael cohen committed perjury here in this court or across the street in the state court, one or the other. but what's remarkable is about what you just said is that michael cohen blames at all of his guilty pleas. >> are it's convictions on
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donald, please? on donald trump. donald trump does the exact opposite. he says, why? nothing to do with anything about why you went to prison, which is also not accurate. >> yeah, that's what they're some potency to that argument for the prosecution. you go it's not quite accurate to say, i know people say michael cohen already went to prison for this. it's not quite for this. he pled guilty to federal campaign finance laws, nothing to do with state falsification. but generally speaking, he went to prison already in small part for the stormy daniels pay off. why should the boss skate? there are some appealed with either is there any benefit to michael cohen? it having everyone talks about his credibility and lack thereof leading up to the team knows it's coming, it's not like he's in a good on that. stand and not know where it's going michael cohen and i don't say this lightly he's got a screw loose that's the sweetest way and he no, he now i'm gonna get a phone call, but it was complete when he loves the attention, he loves it. >> look what he's doing. none of us here have ever seen a witness who's going to be testifying in this huge trial? from oj simpson all those years ago, to bill cosby recently
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doing all of this media before they go on to talk about it, like it doesn't exist. he can't get enough of obscene himself on tv. one last thing caitlin, it's going to be interesting. who does the cross-examination for the defense? i don't believe it's susan i got to be right. and he's got a very different style. then. susan does. he's good. i think i think he's going to be a lot more laid back that susan's aggressive kind of bag, bag, bag, they would storm. >> i mean, he's got to be thinking of the jury when he's trump would love for him to do susan necheles, israel that's good style. >> i mean, i think i think michael cohen is the type of witness where you can do exactly that. i think he's going to go super aggressive after him because he's going to hold him an ultimate contempt. i think the jury wants to see it. i don't think they're going to have a lot of sympathy for michael cohen. so i think it's going to be maybe even more aggressive than what you saw, what susan necheles, judge how does how does judge more shawn handle that? because there were moments in the stormy daniels testimony where he was clearly uncomfortable
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with some of the leinz of questioning where they went, but also with the cross-examination is there a way that he's watching for that here? can they go too far on michael cohen's credibility hit? >> well, he's always watching. but in terms of cross-examined the nation, that's fair game. a judge does have to take a step back and say, this is this is the main witness in this case. this is a credibility contest and this is the opportunity that defendant has to press him on everything and pretty much the judge will will stand down. the judge will be much more focused on the questions posed it's about the prosecution to make sure they don't run they don't run afoul of the rules, but the defense cross-examine that's they're that's their fields. >> i try to make the argument for michael cohen, the prosecution become a four on zero pylon everyone who hasn't drink in there and it's made this similar argument, right? >> you're going to folks michael cohen is not a saint. in fact, he is a sinner. he told you that he's done some bad things. he's owned up. in fact, he went to jail. he did
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time, but what he's done and when he flipped in 2018, he turned to page and since then, he's been on the straighten out, by the way, folks, you don't have to take michael cohen at his word for any of the important facts he testified about because all the important things he told you about are backed up by texts, by checks, by documents, by testimony from other witnesses. we're not asking you to love michael cohen. you just have to let him guide you through the senator said great argument. council and that would have worked a few days ago before he shows up next to the guy with a guy in an orange jumpsuit. me that's just it just doesn't work that right? of course. the prosecution is going to say you don't have to like them, don't take them at a dinner. we're not asking that you have to understand why he's telling the truth on these limited issues and compare it and corroborated with all the other witnesses. that's the only thing they're going to that's the only thing they need from them. but the jury can't despise not going to go their way. i mean, you don't really hear the word hate that much story. >> daniels says she hates donald trump. they should be able to get out of michael
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cohen. i hate donald trump. it obvious vice versa. >> during the jury saw tweets today hey, from donald trump saying, if you need an attorney, i highly recommend you don't go to michael cohen for your legal services even though that's exactly what trump did for decades all of us you can tell you though, that's not normal normally witnesses don't come up and say, i hate the defendant, i hate the different maybe a divorce case, but not usually in a criminal case. so that's i mean, that guy's a defense attorney. you're like they have expressed to you they were honest about how they feel about this person. they're willing to say anything. so that that t-shirt that michael cohen, where's war and that shot and shot we showed you comes to fruition. >> don't misunderstand emotion as a part of every criminal case, right? it depends on who you're witnesses and what the facts are, but you don't usually get this vitriol. you get brave victim who is just devastated and pain having to sit there and go through it, or a mother whose child was shot
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and having to say i went to the morgan, this is what i had to do and it's just emotionally charged. but this is this is different level. this is such a, such disdain for each other that we don't know how it's going to play house, what he's showing such a lack of respect for the system because you have to imagine, you know, the prosecutors were saying you know, tone it down. his lawyers probably telling him tone it down and he just says no regard. >> yeah. and the prosecutor said they asked him multiple times safe to say nothing is normal about this. we'll see what it looks like on monday when court resumes, elie arthur renata, jill, thank you all. elie, we'll be back in just a moment to help us tie together the key moments from a whirlwind week so far it was a lot to keep up with. they'll show us how it's all been designed to set the table for what's to come on monday they also rudy giuliani is radio show was just canceled over his continued 2020 election lies. as those legal troubles keep mounting when the jinx came out, i thought, oh, my god on
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stand on monday elie honig is back here with us and ellie obviously, pre daniel's testimony was probably the most searing of anything we've heard so far. >> but when you are a juror and you're going home when you're thinking about what are the main takeaways from that, obviously, no one knows what they're thinking, but sent to someone who has been in another courtrooms your whole life. so definitely the most memorable moment in a memorable we commend you are in the courtroom for stormy daniels. i mean, you'll remember that 30 years from now, the jurors will certainly remember a few weeks for now when they're deliberating to me the key moment was her crossing examination because that's really when the story gets told donald trump's team started really effectively on cross-examination. the very first thing they asked her right out right out of the gate. do you hate this defendant? do you hate donald trump? but she said, yes, i do. i mean, right there is bias that's a straightforward answer. give her credit. it's an honest answer, but you can argue to the jury she hates him. she has every incentive the second day of cross examination, which i guess was yesterday morning though, i think things fell apart for trump's team. i think they
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strayed from the solid basis they have. and when they started examining her about her career in the pornography industry, i thought that really miss the mark. i don't think there's any relevance to it. it felt like they were just trying to smear her in a way that was unfair. so i think they actually lost the thread when they went to that part of the cross-examination prosecutors used the i hate trump part, though it's like what? yeah, she does. like we can see that from her tweets and from his tweets as well, you can use the i hate trump are and they will with stormy daniels and michael cohen. i mean, think about it imagine if the person who hates you, most things will no one hates you. but imagine if the person who hates you most of the world and tweets about you all day. that's how much they hate you imagine if your fate rested in their head, you can say that to the jury. absolutely. fair game. yeah. i've got a few those on twitter. i don't think i would want my face arrest in their hands, but for the story, daniels in the biggest takeaways there's also a trump organization, employee who was on the stand before her. >> yeah. >> people have probably heard his name by now given everything that happened this week, but it was geoff mcconney and he was actually really
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instrumental because he was this trump an employee. and you found his testimony to be pretty compelling? >> i did it because this is what the case is about for all the hush money and porn stars. this is a business records it's falsification case. there was a moment when mcconney testified about an email that was exchanged within the trump organization where mcconney said, essentially let's chalk it up, put it down as lawyer fees, put it down as legal fees. here we go. please pay from the trust post to legal expenses. put retainer for the month of january and february in the description. now that right there is the essence of the crime. it doesn't quite get them all the way there because on cross-examination, mcconney was asked, but trump didn't give you that order. you never even really spoke to trump and he said that's right, but that's a big fact for the prosecution. another really important piece of evidence, it's a handwritten notes. i think it's government exhibit 36. and in case anyone wants to look it up and what this does, it's allen weisselberg's handwriting, jeffery mcconney said, i recognize that handwriting i worked with a guy for 30 something years and lunch everyday for 35-year? exactly what this does is this shows exactly how they calculated the origin, $20,000
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that michael cohen was reimbursed it michael cohen's going to say exactly what this shows. this piece of evidence will backed up michael cohen in an important life. >> yeah. and ellie, before you go, rudy giuliani is also making use tonight. obviously, we've been talking about trump's former attorney, michael cohen, his other former attorney, rudy giuliani, is in the news because he's basically seething over his suspension from a local radio station here in new york, which also canceled daily talk show. and the reason was because he was pushing more lies about the 2020 election yeah. >> maybe it was a policy. maybe there wasn't a policy. i sure as heck never saw the policy for the last three to four years. i've been saying the same things. i just want to be free to tell people the truth you want to stop me dosha so he's saying that the station fired him because he wouldn't comply with their overly broad directive as he phrased it, to not talk about the 2020 election, which he's like, i've
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been talking about for three-and-a-half years, which is true, but also this guy has been indicted in georgia and in arizona. and for his efforts to overturn the election. we just won't stop aap. >> you won't let go of these lies and he's costing himself everything. like you said, he's indicted twice. he's listed as a coconspirator. he's been sued. he's been found liable for about 150 million. what else he's lost his law license wherever use the practice. and there's a line there's a brief submitted today by the lawyers for shaye moss and ruby freeman, the two women who was found guilty or not guilty, liable for defaming. and it's just this perfect three word sentence. the layer wrote enough is enough unfortunately, there's not a heck of a lot the court can do. they can because he's already been found liable for $150 the lawyer in this case asked the judge to prevent rudy giuliani from speaking. you can't do that physically are really legally. >> look rudy is just a disgrace to the profession. i don't have any more polite way to put it. i wish i did the way he has clung to these lies has cost him his job as cost him his
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reputation, and may someday cost him his liberty if he ends up getting convicted in these cases, i wanna feel bad for him on a human level, but i just can't bring myself to do it why do you want to feel bad for i don't know. i'm soft i guess, but they're no when i think about what he did the shaye moss and ruby freeman, i do not want to feel that from that graceful hundred and 50 million. >> and he is not paid i'd all anything and he's trying to hide his assets now. and these two women are civic servants. they were counting ballots and he is destroyed their lives. they've testified about it, so i guess i take back my sympathy. >> i mean, it is remarkable though, to sit here and look at this week of just this isn't related to why donald trump is in court right now. but to see the fact that donald trump's former attorney is going to get on the stand and testify against him on monday. has other former attorney is complaining about as radio show getting canceled because he won't stop lying about the election when they asked him not to. and also owes 100 of million in damages to elect should workers. i mean, the the danger of being an attorney
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knowledgeable they made their own choices, but it is remarkable to see that so perilous job and i guess i'll close out this long week that we had by saying this. i do have faith in the system. i do have faith in our processes and what we've seen in that court is extraordinary is that is to former lawyers and stormy daniels take the stand. at bottom. this is a trial. this is what trials looked like. what you saw that day is what i saw every day for 14 years. this is a judge doing his job. these are prosecutors by enlarge doing not perfect, but good jobs. defense lawyer, same thing. the juror seem to be attentive. this is our system. let's let it play out just to say for all the times that donald trump comes out and says, this is a corrupt judge, correct? >> trump judge, which he basically does every day. i have been at court several times now. the judge is incredibly fair to donald trump. he is sitting there watching the proceedings closely. he steps in when he needs to. he's not only scolding the defense, he's also chatting the prosecutors at moments, so i've said before, i think the judge has a conflict of interest because he did donate $35 small mt to defeat donald trump. he should have recused himself, but that's a separate issue from is he doing a good and fair
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job? that's a completely separate issue. i have been very impressed by the job judge. merchan is doing here. he's running a fair, efficient courtroom. he's giving both parties a fair trial elie honig. >> thank you. get some rest. next monday. ahead. an important story that we're following here on the source after a black us airmen was shot to death in his own home by a florida sheriff's deputy, roger fortson's family accusing the deputy of entering the wrong apartment. the attorney representing his family, ben crump, joins me next spotlights 12th time in years, changing the world intimate. >> look at how these champions make the world a better place. champions for change all next week on cnn, sponsored by charles schwab. >> i'm always shopping no real, real. >> they drop over 10,000 new arrivals every day. gucci, rolex prada, lukito, miss garcia, tiffany, up to 90% off
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tonight after new bodycam video shows a sheriff's deputy fatally shooting a black man, a block us airman in his own home. >> this is 23 year-old senior airman, roger fortson. he was in his apartment last week when his family says that he are too loud, knock on the door. it was a sheriff's deputy responding after they got a call for a disturbance in progress, according to the police, police say that they responded to the correct address, a claim that i should note, fortson's family rejects facing mounting pressure from his loved ones over his death. a florida sheriff, for least the body camera footage. i do want to warn you that what you're about to see is disturbing but it's important let's open the door sheriff's office, open the door trump three, 12 shots
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fired suspect there fortson's family says that he was facetiming with his girlfriend when he opened that door, when he was shot, that video was first shared with cnn and i want to warn you that this this other angle from the facetime recording is also disturbing, but we want to show it to you tonight. >> for you the deputy who shot fortson has been placed under administrative leave as florida officials have opened a criminal investigation into this, and hopefully providing answers to a family that is desperate for them tonight.
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>> i'm joined tonight by the civil rights attorney ben crump, who is representing the fortson family and ben, it's great to have you here because rodgers, mom, mika, she was supposed to join us tonight. but she is now attending a memorial for her son and understandably no one can even imagine what this time is like for her right now. and i just wonder, i know you've been speaking with them how she doing where caitlin she's completely devastated. there still in disbelief his little sister, his angel, 10-years-old, harmony, and his little brother, andres, 16 you know, everything he was doing. he would tell everybody he was doing for them to give them a better life, a better chance at the american dream. i mean, he was living out his dream as a united states air force member. he wanted to be a pilot and so he was doing everything right. caitlin, i make he was a model citizen, a model airman i make
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everybody all his coronas. everybody just talks about how remarkable this young man was. and they are in disbelief that roger is really gone, especially in this way, caitlin i mean it's it's almost unbelievable and to see the body camera footage that has now been released. and i know that you were very vocal on urging them to release that that when the 30s are saying that the deputy here was reacting in self-defense. i mean this is a service member, but no criminal record. he's carrying a weapon that he legally owned in his own home, and i just have a hard time understanding how it's self-defense given this ehrmann was in his home with his gun when they approached him besides the video that's was so disturbing to his mother, mika full sun, because she said, you
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all put out this narrative that he was killed in self-defense almost suggesting that he was doing something wrong he was doing a criminal act. >> when he wasn't they they tried to make them out as a bad guy, but he's a good guy. i may everything about him is an american patriot. and when you look at that video, caitlin, i mean, he opens the door and they say step back and he steps back. he's compliant. >> and then for whatever reason, without proper cation, i mean, he executes roger. >> i mean, he shoots six bullets, point-blank range. and you saw rajah never moved his right hand. he was a train military gun user, he knew about safety. and you see his left hand go up to almost say, i'm not doing anything. he respected authority, he respected police. he complied
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even when he's on the ground, i think is best shot the officer is telling him dropped a weapon. he says, i did. i don't have it he never said drop the weapon into after he has shot him. >> exactly. the shots are fired before that command is issued and so what is the latest that you've heard from the sheriff's office? have they have they made any assurances about one answering your questions or providing any more information about their investigation they haven't. >> kaitlan after the video was released, we raised serious questions about are they trained to deal with law citizens who are exercising their second amendment rights because he never should have shot him like that just because he had a weapon especially in the state of florida, what encourage citizens to have the
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second amendment protections of having a good and then furthermore, they were at the wrong apartment where were you watch this whole video? you see they get their the woman we believe she's from the leeson agency, sheikh, they asked a word they say, i'm not sure this domestic disturbance. we know roger was on facetime with his girlfriend and his apartment by himself, with his little dog there was no disturbance there. and then they asda again, as she says, after two times san i'm not sure if she says apartment 1401 and they go there and then we see what transpires that god, his girlfriend was recording on facetime video because they i can tell you to stay his reputation as mother says, talking about, they win the right apartment and then also talking about it was self-defense. >> well, what you just mentioned there is my question
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also on this because this story has been out for several days now the video was released yesterday. have you or the fortson family heard anything from the nra from governor desantis or from any of these prominent house republicans in florida who talked about that conceit? yields carrie bill that the dissent has just signed into law not too long ago we have not heard anything from the governor of florida. >> we have heard from congresswoman lucy mack bath, and congressman matt gaetz. they both reached out to the family. is gaetz district in this bass district where he lives in atlanta, georgia and everybody has said to a warrant that they should not be staying at his reputation, but nobody from the nra has said anything because obviously for whatever reason, this officer shot him when he saw the good and
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america has to decide whether they shot many people believe they know why he's shot. but he hasn't said why he shot and i hadn't stepped up to defend this black united states member of the air force rights to the second amendment. we're still waiting. >> are you saying that you believe that he was he was shot because he was a black man where there are questions that say why did issue and if he was a white citizen, if he was a white usa or man would hear best shot we would never know, but obviously when you think about both them, jiang, that young black man who was shouting his apartment by the police woman, breonna taylor are tiana jefferson. there are innocent black people who are just incredible young people. i mean, we're doing everything right? that lives, we're take it away. and you have to scratch your head and say, would they have done this, if these were young white like
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people, yeah ben crump, please give are regards to mika and tell her that we are thinking of her and her family and we will do everything we can to help you get those answers. >> thank you for coming on to talk about this tonight. of course he will be remembered as a patriot because that's what he was thank you very much. >> kaitlan collins thank you. >> ben crump will continue to monitor that story, will continue to bring you updates here on the source. also tonight, we are watching closely what is happening extreme solar storms, something that you don't typically see if it is converted massive and strength. it could also potentially cause major problems for your gps system. more details ahead yeah introducing flexor is he thinks is flaky red patches are all people see oh, tesla is the number one prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. oh, tesla can help you get clear. >> don't use a tesla if you're
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is putting on a spectacular display. this video is just in from ipswich, england and the northern lights currently being super charge due to a series of storms on the sun the auroras may be visible in this country for the next few nights as far south as my home state of alabama, the solar storms could mean power outages though it's satellite problems. >> so they are also being monitored tonight my source sayyed on this is paul sutter, who is an astrophysicist and adviser. paul, welcome back to the source. you do at this space weather prediction center, which you may not even know is this division of government that we have is now bringing this storm as a g5, which is the highest that the scale goes. and means that it's the first g5 that we have seen since 2003. >> what is this actually going to look like? yeah, for just about everyone, this is going to be a delightful, wonderful event. we have an opportunity here to witness the power of our own sun and different way. what this means is that is that
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as this storm, this storm of charged particles than electricity magnetism washes over the earth are aurorae are northern and southern lights will be much stronger and reach much further south than they normally do. so if you have an opportunity opportunity tonight or tomorrow night, or even sunday night, go outside, get away from city lights, and look to the north skies are clear and the aurora present, you will see a greenish glow on the northern horizon if he can't see with your naked hide, just take a picture with your phone and your phone as a better time of picking up that greenish glow okay. >> normally we can see it this far south. >> it's not actually going to look like what the northern lights i would look like. it'll you're saying it'll be a little bit of a different hue, or how bright it will be. what are they looking for exactly? >> so if you're in a pretty rather southerly latitudes, so you'd say that mid-atlantic
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and the united states, the best you're going to see is a greenish glow on the horizon further north, you get the more spectacular your view is going to be so if you're in upper do england or the midwest, like northern minnesota, going into canada, you might get a much more spectacular display where you can see the billowing cartons of plasma as these particles slammed into our atmosphere there you might get a better show, but you have to go north okay. >> so for for a lot of people, especially those up north, this is going to be beautiful and something really cool to see. but what i was thinking of, and i had read about this in the new yorker when they published this really fascinating report, just a few months ago on this it is basically the repercussions that a major solar storm could wreak on our planet. and what that could look like and it was basically talking about our transmissions, grids, gps systems satellites backup, ground to air communications. all of that could, could really be under threat absolutely.
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>> especially with a significant storm like this, like you mentioned, we haven't seen in two decades storm like this primarily affects anything that is long and can carry electricity. so our power grid itself is susceptible to huge voltage and amperage shifts long oil pipelines can carry big current scheme and can damage equipment on either end. and then any satellites in orbit are susceptible. so any communication from ground to satellite, the positioning of satellites that might get degraded, we might see some damage. we might see some effects in our gps systems over the next few days. these storms have real impact, which is why we have offices like the space weather forecasting center coordinated against multiple government agencies to monitor for exactly these kinds of, do they monitor it? >> what what, how did they know
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when it's going to be i mean, we all know kind of what the national weather service looks like, how they monitor when a hurricane's approaching how do you know when it's going to be possibly really disruptive to everyday life. >> absolutely. so we have a fleet of orbiting satellites constantly monitoring the sun. we also have ground-based observatories are constantly monitoring this on we look at the sun for signs of increased activity. and when we see a lot of sunspots we know there's the potential for these big storms and then when we watch, we can see flares coming off this on big bright flashes coming from the sunspot regions. that's when we know a solar storm might have been launched. and then we can see that launch coming off of the sun and we get a warning of a few hours up to a few days for the storm hits the earth pulsator. >> i mean, it's fascinating and everyone should read that reported the new yorker because
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it really sheds a lot of light on this for those of us who were living in the unknown of it. thank you, paul, for joining us. >> thank you. >> and i should note cnn is going to have special coverage of this severe solar strong. you'll be able to see what everyone else is seeing if you're not in one of those areas of north that he was just talking about there. that's at the top of the hour on newsnight with abby phillip. so make sure you stay around for that up next year on the source though, we'd the mother of the us soldier who was just detained in russia, joining us tonight. de is. fighting to bring her son back home bring into savings this moving season with pods, save up to 25%. now i'm moving in storage and see my pods this has been trusted with over 6 million moves but don't wait, save up to 25%. now, visit pot.com today what would you like to pay for your hotel room tonight? >> 185, 169 or $155? >> same room. same surface, just different prices it's really up to you well, nobody
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skin at omni lux led.com i'm sara marie and washington. and this is cnn closed captioning brought to you by meso book.com are firm only represents mesothelioma victims and their families. >> if you or a loved one who has been diagnosed with ms ophelie oma call us now a us soldier has been detained in russia, prompting an investigation by the pentagon into claims that russian intelligence agencies may have targeted him a russian cord claims that staff sergeant gordon black will be held until at least july 2 for what they say is quote suspicions of theft that arrest comes after he left his us army unit in south korea nearly a month ago,
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he then traveled to russia without the necessary clearances from the army. >> of course, the state department has more to all americans against traveling to russia black mother says that he went there to visit his girlfriend, a russian woman that he is known for years and she believes that she lured him there are source tonight is melody jones herself, that mother of detained us staff sergeant gordon black and melody. thank you for coming on to talk about this. i can imagine it's a difficult time and i just wonder what is the labor? this that you've heard from either the pentagon or the state department about your son i've heard nothing except what you guys see well by these contacted us it's a you last heard from them. if i remember correctly, and please tell me if i if i don't last week and they contacted you to tell you that he had been detained. is that accurate? >> yes. yes the last time go
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ahead. go ahead that's the last time we've heard anything from them and what was what did they tell you then? did they understand why he was being detained besides what we heard the claim about the suspicions of theft no he did not go in details or nothing he said he's being detained and i'll send you an email. and. what do you know about why he was why your son was traveling there? because as you know, of course, the state department is selling all americans don't go to russia and the pentagon says he hadn't been authorized to go, which obviously raises a lot of questions about the trip and the danger and a triplet that one i told him not to go man, his stepfather both and he's 30 gonna beat 35 and september so it's kinda hard, good convince them sometimes. but he had a girlfriend that he was going to
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see you haven't heard from your son either, have you? >> no no letters, nothing phone i imagine you're worried about him oh, yeah. of course. >> we both are we get very little sleep because it's kinda hard to lay down sleep when you worry all in your mind, just keeps going yeah i can't even imagine i had a good night of. sleep and you know, we heard from paul whelan and an american who was saying that he was worried that he was worried about what this could mean. obviously, that's something we'll monitor very closely. and melody jones, if you here anything, please. please let us know i will do that at honey. thank you. thank you for coming on and for joining us tonight you know, i had something else

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