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and of course, david will remind everyone first le, who exactly david is. remind us all about the role he has played generally. david, the prosecution's first witness, and a very important one and donald trump are old friends. >> they go back to the 1980s together. most importantly for this case david was the chairman and ceo of american media incorporated. you'll hear them referred to as ami. there's a company that runs the national enquirer, the famous or infamous tabloid, and the crocks of david is testimony goes to this practice that they would engage in called catch and kill, where they would purchase the rights to a story that would have been unflattering according to donald trump and then kill it and then not run it and they're going to focus specifically on three incidents of catch-and-kill in this trial. first of all, stormy daniels this is the charge. the charge relates not to the act of catching and killing. that's not the crime, but the final is not a crime, right? exactly. not a crime to catch and kill, not a crime to pay hush money. but the fi
and of course, david will remind everyone first le, who exactly david is. remind us all about the role he has played generally. david, the prosecution's first witness, and a very important one and donald trump are old friends. >> they go back to the 1980s together. most importantly for this case david was the chairman and ceo of american media incorporated. you'll hear them referred to as ami. there's a company that runs the national enquirer, the famous or infamous tabloid, and the...
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david yes. >> good. yeah. good. so people come back track of this, all this doorman's story is the first of three parts of the catch and kill scheme that prosecutors are going to introduce. there's paying off after the doorman, the $30,000 next up will be the paying of karen mcdougal to catch and kill her story $150,000. and then the third one will be the one that's charged in the indictment. the falsification relating to the non-disclosure pay of stormy daniels and didn't say earlier today, karen the national enquirer typically didn't by stories just to suppress them. >> yes, i believe so, yes. that is definitely the case. and i think that goes that's further evidence that this was an illegal conspiracy which and the reason we keep going back to that term is a coconspirator statement is an exception to the hearsay rule and that's why you hear this coming up over and over again in court because a lot of evidence the prosecution is trying to said at the time this could be a very big story. i believe it's important th
david yes. >> good. yeah. good. so people come back track of this, all this doorman's story is the first of three parts of the catch and kill scheme that prosecutors are going to introduce. there's paying off after the doorman, the $30,000 next up will be the paying of karen mcdougal to catch and kill her story $150,000. and then the third one will be the one that's charged in the indictment. the falsification relating to the non-disclosure pay of stormy daniels and didn't say earlier...
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david pecker. we'll be right back how would really happened sunday at nine on cnn. >> you know, when i take the bike out like this, all my stress is just melt away. >> i hear that is bad. boy can fix anything yeah. >> tough day at work, nice cruises sorts. >> you write out when i'm writing, i'm not even thinking about my painful cavity he shouldn't ignore it. and every time i get stressed about having to pay my bills hop. on the bike, man, i'll come on. >> you got to pay your bills. >> you don't have to worry about anything when you're protected by america's number one motorcycle insurer? >> well, you definitely do those things aren't related so that is a vibrating pain at morgan stanley old-school hard work meets ball new thinking to help you see untapped possibilities and relax leslie, work with you to make them real okay. yeah, we got orders coming in, starting a business is never easy. a star near eight months pregnant that's a different story. sorry. >> i couldn't slow down. we were starting a
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a week or two later david urban david, kentucky. and thank you very much we're just so donald walking back into the courtroom here with a paula reid& kaitlan collins, that was the argument that down trump made that they sort of ended up on, which is this was locker room talk about the access hollywood tape and that's sort of the line that they embraced. >> it was a moment of complete crisis when this tape came out. i mean, the idea, yes. now, they'll say you know, when something happens. oh, well, it kipp is bad as access. hello, but the fact that they survived and lived through that it's kind of gallows humor among trump, aide who were there at that time. also, there's evidence and documents to back us up where hope hicks, michael cohen, others were talking about this. i mean, that tape came out when they were in the middle of debate prep. it is lowered. >> it came out on the front. i mean, i remember i did the debate on sunday we were doing debate prep friday is when the tape came out. i mean, it was a bombshell. >> trump's fraud,
a week or two later david urban david, kentucky. and thank you very much we're just so donald walking back into the courtroom here with a paula reid& kaitlan collins, that was the argument that down trump made that they sort of ended up on, which is this was locker room talk about the access hollywood tape and that's sort of the line that they embraced. >> it was a moment of complete crisis when this tape came out. i mean, the idea, yes. now, they'll say you know, when something...
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barry, i'm wondering, i'm a, you know, david pecker obviously. well, you worked with the enquirer for a long time. you had some involvement with that doorman's story. how do you what do you make of him as a witness? >> well, listen, i was there anderson for 17 years. i was actually the first editorial higher for david pecker back in 1999 it's certainly troubling to be to be watching this unfold in thinking back to the great years of breaking so many great stories, john edwards, tiger woods jesse jackson's paternity of a child i was i left the inquire after the doorman's story two months before the karen mcdougal story, before they got involved with that. and the last trump's story that i did work on was the doorman's story and david pecker was absolutely right. had that story turned out to be true, and he published it, it would have been a mega sale it might have sold millions of copies. >> did you know that he was going to kill it if it turned out, regardless of what it turned out. well, listen, i mean, i remember going back to 2010 when i knew
barry, i'm wondering, i'm a, you know, david pecker obviously. well, you worked with the enquirer for a long time. you had some involvement with that doorman's story. how do you what do you make of him as a witness? >> well, listen, i was there anderson for 17 years. i was actually the first editorial higher for david pecker back in 1999 it's certainly troubling to be to be watching this unfold in thinking back to the great years of breaking so many great stories, john edwards, tiger...
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on cross-examination of david pecker today? >> the core of his he's a vehicle by the prosecution to set the stage and just talk about this august 2015 meeting in which this catch and kill conspiracy as the prosecution has laid it out, began where he met with donald trump and michael cohen. so they were trying to go back to that meeting and suggests that it was just like businesses usual, it was standard operating procedure for the national enquirer. so aiml beauvais want to trump's defense lawyers had asked pecker on the stan i want you i want to stick with the august 2015 trump tower meeting. pecker says yes, beauvais says, at that meeting, the concept of catch-and-kill was not discussed, correct? pecker said that's correct but they asked and then there was no discussion of a financial dimension to any agreement at that meeting, correct? pecker said, yes, that's correct. so trying to say that there was no blatant conversation about a catch and kill and that i'm going to buy the deals now on redirect with the prosecution, they
on cross-examination of david pecker today? >> the core of his he's a vehicle by the prosecution to set the stage and just talk about this august 2015 meeting in which this catch and kill conspiracy as the prosecution has laid it out, began where he met with donald trump and michael cohen. so they were trying to go back to that meeting and suggests that it was just like businesses usual, it was standard operating procedure for the national enquirer. so aiml beauvais want to trump's...
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who is david? you need to set the stage even if people are vaguely familiar with stormy daniels and some of the more salacious allegations they're absolutely not familiar with the nuts and bolts, so that's why they need to walk them through step-by-step, taking the time to talk about the numbers or the email accounts all setting up these larger pieces of evidence that the prosecution hopes will prove their case are important or not having isolation, right. >> todd blanche, to the defense team are going to have their shot as well. >> and who's going to tell a better story with the better facts and details that they believe prove their version of events is probably going to determine who wins his case and who ends this case. >> i could mean everything 12 people, maybe 18 could determine everything in this country. all right. thank you both. and as we stay here continuing our special coverage, wealth thanks, erin. thanks very much. are cnn legal analysts are back with the right now, karen friedman, ag
who is david? you need to set the stage even if people are vaguely familiar with stormy daniels and some of the more salacious allegations they're absolutely not familiar with the nuts and bolts, so that's why they need to walk them through step-by-step, taking the time to talk about the numbers or the email accounts all setting up these larger pieces of evidence that the prosecution hopes will prove their case are important or not having isolation, right. >> todd blanche, to the defense...
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they got david pecker to say michael cohen is prone to exaggeration. and so they're going to do that by the way, with a lot of other witnesses. if kellyanne conway takes the stand i bet she has negative things to say about michael cohen. maybe hope hicks two. and what you do as a defense lawyer, not my profession, ards, but i've seen enough good ones inaction when it comes down for closing go folks. their own witnesses, the first guy they put in front of you, david pecker, said that their star witness is prone to exaggeration if you find that he exactly related to this case is over. so that's a really smart and effective tactic like michael cohen can be restored as the star witness so easily because people forget or maybe don't forget that he pled guilty to the same scheme that trump is now being put on trial for and people generally as a defense lawyer do not plead guilty to things they didn't do. that plea is locked in. he took a three-year jail sentence for the acts that he claimed in open court when he entered his plea. i did this at the direction
they got david pecker to say michael cohen is prone to exaggeration. and so they're going to do that by the way, with a lot of other witnesses. if kellyanne conway takes the stand i bet she has negative things to say about michael cohen. maybe hope hicks two. and what you do as a defense lawyer, not my profession, ards, but i've seen enough good ones inaction when it comes down for closing go folks. their own witnesses, the first guy they put in front of you, david pecker, said that their star...
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a david, thanks so much for joining us, as you know, better than all of us. this is a very complicated relationship. does that make it complicated for jurors to weigh cohen's expected testimony well not i don't think so many, many times prosecutors have used criminals, career criminals, to convict other people of crimes so the issue here will be not just michael cohen's credibility, but the tape recorder earnings he has of his conversations with trump and the documents that will tend to support his story and of course, it's important wolf to keep in mind that donald trump hired michael cohen and employed him because he would menace people and he would lie for trump when he wanted once they broke from everything i've seen, including my conversations with michael cohen, he has been very carefully and precisely accurate in what he said. >> interesting david pecker testified today that trump was very detailed, oriented. he said one time in trump's office, trump was given invoices and checks sign and pecker, quote, notice that he referring to trump review the invo
a david, thanks so much for joining us, as you know, better than all of us. this is a very complicated relationship. does that make it complicated for jurors to weigh cohen's expected testimony well not i don't think so many, many times prosecutors have used criminals, career criminals, to convict other people of crimes so the issue here will be not just michael cohen's credibility, but the tape recorder earnings he has of his conversations with trump and the documents that will tend to support...
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he also tried to catch david pecker in some inconsistencies in here his testimony, david pecker has been cooperating with prosecutors, the federal prosecutors and the district attorney's office for several years now. and so they were focusing on remember, the testimony about a january 2017 meeting at trump tower that david pecker walked into all donald trump was finishing up a meeting with some of with the f then cia director james comey and others and during this meeting is when david pecker testified that there was that he had a conversation so what donald trump donald trump thanked him for taking care of the doorman's story in the karen mcdougal story so donald trump's attorneys pressed him on notes from previous interview had given with investigators. and in that interview notes he said, according to the fbi's nodes, that david pecker told them that donald trump did not express any gratitude david pecker dug in on that today saying that the fbi knows were wrong and that his testimony over the past few days is that correct accurate testimony? so a lot of back and forth over different
he also tried to catch david pecker in some inconsistencies in here his testimony, david pecker has been cooperating with prosecutors, the federal prosecutors and the district attorney's office for several years now. and so they were focusing on remember, the testimony about a january 2017 meeting at trump tower that david pecker walked into all donald trump was finishing up a meeting with some of with the f then cia director james comey and others and during this meeting is when david pecker...
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enquirer's an individual named david pecker well, david, his good friends with donald trump. >> they have a friendship that goes back for many years. in fact, the national enquirer has endorsed donald trump he said he must be president. >> i had nothing to do with the national enquirer story. and frankly, i hope it's not true because it's pretty bad so ted cruz got one thing wrong in the extended version of those comments, which was he implied it was roger stone who is acting as the emissary. >> would david pecker and donald trump, obviously as we now know we'll hear from him on the witness stand. it was michael cohen who is doing all of this but but what ted cruz got closer to than really anyone did at that time was that relationship between the two of them and then it was not a known entity, a known quantity like it is now, like we saw the details coming out. and you saw donald trump also doing other interviews about the claim that ted cruz is father was involved with lee harvey oswald trump would go on tv and say, well, the national enquirer has gotten other things, right? you kno
enquirer's an individual named david pecker well, david, his good friends with donald trump. >> they have a friendship that goes back for many years. in fact, the national enquirer has endorsed donald trump he said he must be president. >> i had nothing to do with the national enquirer story. and frankly, i hope it's not true because it's pretty bad so ted cruz got one thing wrong in the extended version of those comments, which was he implied it was roger stone who is acting as the...
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we're looking at your sketch of david pecker is testimony today. can you take us a little bit inside the room during this moment well, mr. pecker is very interesting a witness it's quite fascinating to hear about how they conspired to say awful things about anybody who was challenging donald trump for the presidency. >> he went after it mr. rubio, he went after ted cruz they were all sexual scandals. i think there was zero concerned about what was true or not true. they were just having a holhot which makes it kind of poetic justice that he's having to deal with this right now. >> interesting, i know you sketch trump in the e jean carroll defamation trial and his new york civil fraud trial as well. and you say he seems to have lost rank. a lot of his bravado since them, since then, tell us more about trump's demeanor in this courtroom from what you've observed over the past few days? >> i, mean, trump is basically still being treated like royalty. he has a procession that, you know, of secret service who follow him in and all of us are like being t
we're looking at your sketch of david pecker is testimony today. can you take us a little bit inside the room during this moment well, mr. pecker is very interesting a witness it's quite fascinating to hear about how they conspired to say awful things about anybody who was challenging donald trump for the presidency. >> he went after it mr. rubio, he went after ted cruz they were all sexual scandals. i think there was zero concerned about what was true or not true. they were just having a...
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are unlawful david pecker says, yes. steinglass says, did either you or ami ever report to the federal election commission that ami had made a donation to of care, a payment to karen mcdougal. pecker says, we did not sign. glas says, why did ami and make this purchase of karen mcdougal story? pecker says, we purchased a story so it won't be published by any or other organization steinglass asked why did you not want it to be published by any other organization? pecker says, i didn't want we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrassed or hurt that campaign? hurt the campaign. bradley, first to you, why that focus, how much damage did it do to trump as we approach cross this morning yeah no that. >> was the meat and bones of the prosecution's case in terms the idea that this was all tied to the campaign, that this wasn't a personal thing that wasn't what rudy giuliani is to talk about it. oh, was just disparate as family the embarrassment. >> no the entire criminal congruent between ami and donald trump thr
are unlawful david pecker says, yes. steinglass says, did either you or ami ever report to the federal election commission that ami had made a donation to of care, a payment to karen mcdougal. pecker says, we did not sign. glas says, why did ami and make this purchase of karen mcdougal story? pecker says, we purchased a story so it won't be published by any or other organization steinglass asked why did you not want it to be published by any other organization? pecker says, i didn't want we...
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david being one of them. right. so david made a deal. david is now turned on donald trump. i think the trump team is gonna look to discredit him for the deal well, that he caught i think they're going to try to impeach his testimony for that. but i think yesterday kinda set the table for the process today. i think we're going to hear some of the details as to how the deals were caught in david packers eyes? & allen. >> i heard you say yesterday that people that people need to remember something that people need to remember about jurors as jurors want a story, what kind of story does david what kind of story does he tell for the prosecution? and also being the first witness, what is the overall what role does he play? do you think in the overall story you certainly gives jurors the ability to look into the window of donald trump's business dealings as it related to his election prospects. >> and what was going on and as was just mentioned, jim said that he these other witnesses, maybe they you have baggage, some of them jurors are going to wonder about their motives for test
david being one of them. right. so david made a deal. david is now turned on donald trump. i think the trump team is gonna look to discredit him for the deal well, that he caught i think they're going to try to impeach his testimony for that. but i think yesterday kinda set the table for the process today. i think we're going to hear some of the details as to how the deals were caught in david packers eyes? & allen. >> i heard you say yesterday that people that people need to remember...
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and it's very unfair david, what do you make of that? >> well, this is an argument we're hearing from him on a daily basis now, and it's not an argument that's going to be in court. this is not the difference between inside the courtroom and what jurors can actually use to adjudicate his guilt or innocence in this case, whether he's guilty or not guilty versus because what happens outside the courtroom when he's free to make a political grievance argument. and as he's doing here, but it has nothing to do with what the case will be decided on. that is an argument. he's making to a political case to the american people. rather than actually trying to improve his standing as a defendant in the case. and i think the distinction is key to understand because this is part of why the jurors are instructed not to consume media around this case, not to be on social media. it's exactly because this will happen in that space and it shouldn't go into their calculations. will the american people by that donald trump is being sidelined in this campaign
and it's very unfair david, what do you make of that? >> well, this is an argument we're hearing from him on a daily basis now, and it's not an argument that's going to be in court. this is not the difference between inside the courtroom and what jurors can actually use to adjudicate his guilt or innocence in this case, whether he's guilty or not guilty versus because what happens outside the courtroom when he's free to make a political grievance argument. and as he's doing here, but it...
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i think the other thing is that david pecker really explained the insides of the scheme. in other words, he explained that why it is that the national enquirer was paying money for the doorman scheme. he was paying money for the karen mcdougal scheme but at some point they said, you we're done being the bank. we are no longer sort of your bank for paying off these people in the caching kill& that explains why it is that michael cohen had to take out this home equity loan that we were hearing about just as the testimony was ending today and explain that difference. now, there's why it is that the national enquirer wasn't paying for this third and final scheme with respect to stormy daniels, but it had to be paid for by michael cohen. so i think that is a very important new detail that we heard that helped flesh out the scheme that we, the basics of which we knew about your book breaks down the very colorful cast of characters in this specific case, but not necessarily trump's assisted rhona graff and michael cohen's banker, gary farro. these lower profile voices set up the
i think the other thing is that david pecker really explained the insides of the scheme. in other words, he explained that why it is that the national enquirer was paying money for the doorman scheme. he was paying money for the karen mcdougal scheme but at some point they said, you we're done being the bank. we are no longer sort of your bank for paying off these people in the caching kill& that explains why it is that michael cohen had to take out this home equity loan that we were...
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the leadoff hitter is david. you're going to put in some relatively unremarkable witnesses in ease two and three. and you're going to try to bury michael in the fifth. any where stormy coming. stormy is probably going to be the seventh winning strategy. no storm analogy. she'll be a fourth ending because she has to come before before colman ending left-handed spot exactly. >> exactly neutralize their of their power okay, we've exhausted this particular so much elliot genes stick around. >> thank you so much we've got questions about the trump trial. >> we'll look. we've got answers and it coming up live in just a few moments. >> every piece of evidence tells a story how it really happened with jesse l. >> martin sunday at nine on cnn businesses go further with 5g solutions. >> that's why they choose t-mobile for business. >> pga of america t-mobile for partnering on 5g powered analytics to help improve player performance t-mobile's network helps aaa stay connected nationwide if you get their members back on the r
the leadoff hitter is david. you're going to put in some relatively unremarkable witnesses in ease two and three. and you're going to try to bury michael in the fifth. any where stormy coming. stormy is probably going to be the seventh winning strategy. no storm analogy. she'll be a fourth ending because she has to come before before colman ending left-handed spot exactly. >> exactly neutralize their of their power okay, we've exhausted this particular so much elliot genes stick around....
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something doesn't smell quite it's interesting. >> david, the court released the full transcript today of what happened in the court proceeding. about 1,000 pages. now, there's a different with the short de yeah i mean, if you if you go through i mean, as long it keeps on going and going and going. i see over here page 953959. so there's a lot of pages that were released today, but there's a difference between reading all these pages and watching a video of what was going on. there's no cameras are allowed in the courtroom that will have a significant impact. aid are pro and con on the on this case. >> well undoubtedly will have a significant impact in how americans are consuming the information out of this case, it will not be through memorable soundbites are the ways in which instagram video gets consumed. now, for many american voters, i don't think it means necessarily wolf, that americans won't be paying attention. we'll see but a first ever criminal case against the former president, who is also the current republican nominee, will undoubtedly be of interest, if not every single
something doesn't smell quite it's interesting. >> david, the court released the full transcript today of what happened in the court proceeding. about 1,000 pages. now, there's a different with the short de yeah i mean, if you if you go through i mean, as long it keeps on going and going and going. i see over here page 953959. so there's a lot of pages that were released today, but there's a difference between reading all these pages and watching a video of what was going on. there's no...
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>> david was giggling a little bit before we came on air. florida is a tough nut to crack fodemocrats,ut i do believe miami-dade broward, those are ars that are ripe if the messaging is corct, i think he needs to go to flida to see i meanwe always have donald tmp does it every year where he ptulates about or every election cycle, what states hcan win. i think flida is in play right now. we'llee what happens, but i think starting in tampa today on this message of abortion, in light of what happened in think is a good strategy. i >> you gotta go. >> is it not surprisingly i'll disagr wh kari and saying that's in play. >> i don't think florida to for democrats to go and show up you've got to play in all 50 states. you kinda have to ke your case. it's i think with tactical move on t biden administration as part to go to florida. well presidt former president ump's on tal hereo come me the int that he can't be there to defend his home turf. and so it's a little bit of a messaging point, i think as well. >> i do want to ask about the trial since y
>> david was giggling a little bit before we came on air. florida is a tough nut to crack fodemocrats,ut i do believe miami-dade broward, those are ars that are ripe if the messaging is corct, i think he needs to go to flida to see i meanwe always have donald tmp does it every year where he ptulates about or every election cycle, what states hcan win. i think flida is in play right now. we'llee what happens, but i think starting in tampa today on this message of abortion, in light of what...
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today. >> so david pecker will be back on the stand. he will be continuing with cross-examinati on. you are expecting that the prosecution to redirect after that, correct absolutely. >> yeah. of course. they get that option before we even maybe see who the next witness is redirected fact, it's very unclear, actually it david pecker will finish today. i mean, it is a full court today, so it's very likely he will, but we don't really quite know the timing just yet but we are waiting to see, like you said, sarah, who is the next witness, is it someone who deals with the accounting inside ami or within the trump organization or is it michael cohen, another quite arguably the star witness for the prosecution so we'll have to wait and see. of course, we don't know because they are not giving away that witness lists or rather the order of that witness list. this ahead of time because of the fear that donald trump will post about them on social media and such. so we'll standby all right. >> brand jin grass standing by for court to resume. appre
today. >> so david pecker will be back on the stand. he will be continuing with cross-examinati on. you are expecting that the prosecution to redirect after that, correct absolutely. >> yeah. of course. they get that option before we even maybe see who the next witness is redirected fact, it's very unclear, actually it david pecker will finish today. i mean, it is a full court today, so it's very likely he will, but we don't really quite know the timing just yet but we are waiting...
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david pecker said, yes, it was later david pecker testified, we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrassed or hurt that campaign prosecutors are going to say, look, the motive was campaign donald trump's team is going to say well, there was also a personal motive here for donald trump's. so look for that on cross now eventually they enter into a contract with karen mcdougal, ami, david pecker enters into a contract that donald trump himself was not part of. and david pecker said the purpose of that agreement was to disguise the true nature of the contract. they didn't want the public learning about karen mcdougal's allegations. now that brings us to sort of between chapter two and chapter three. the big thing that happens is the access hollywood tape came out and the jury's not seeing that tape, but they've learned about it. this is where donald trump gets caught on camera talking about, you can grab them by the blank, et cetera. we remember that tape and pecker said, when that takes it came out, it was very embarrassing, very damaging. again, to the campaign importan
david pecker said, yes, it was later david pecker testified, we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrassed or hurt that campaign prosecutors are going to say, look, the motive was campaign donald trump's team is going to say well, there was also a personal motive here for donald trump's. so look for that on cross now eventually they enter into a contract with karen mcdougal, ami, david pecker enters into a contract that donald trump himself was not part of. and david pecker...
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okay, we'll take you inside david pecker is testimony. the catch and kill scheme at the heart of this trial, and the gag order that donald trump may have just violated. >> again, tonight i'm laura coates live all right. >> david pecker took this stan for now, a second day today, he took the jury inside the august 2015 trump tower meeting with trump and michael cohen. now that was two months after donald trump came down, that escalator and announced that he was going to run for the white house when pecker testifies, of course, he says that's when the catch and kill scheme began. >> it goes inside the room where all of it happened, say quote, at that meeting, donald trump and michael cohen, they asked me, what can i do and what my magazines could do to help the campaign. >> and then tabloid boss said there was quite a lot he could actually do, quote, i said, what i would do is i would run or published positive stories hi, mr. trump, and i would publish negative stories about his opponents. i said i would be your ears and eyes, and boy, was
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david? >> this is how they're trying to link it to the election because that is why this is a felony, correct? that there is an course of another crime. right. so the intent to defraud and making those alterations in the business records in the falsifications. that's that misdemeanor when you get that felony, while is there a tax fraud in there? is there a federal election crime in there? is there a state election crime in there? is it a combination of any of those? and again, that all starts with this theme and why we're doing this, because it makes no sense just to kill a story. and this was a reason behind it. that reason is behind it is to protect donald trump in the election in some capacity. that is a theory and part of the prosecution was the defense do with david. how do they combat what the prosecutors are going to bring out of him? >> well, david got a deal, if you will. so he has immunity is not going to get prosecuted. and there can be some attacks and that although it may be awk
david? >> this is how they're trying to link it to the election because that is why this is a felony, correct? that there is an course of another crime. right. so the intent to defraud and making those alterations in the business records in the falsifications. that's that misdemeanor when you get that felony, while is there a tax fraud in there? is there a federal election crime in there? is there a state election crime in there? is it a combination of any of those? and again, that all...
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and david pecker is testimony. i think it will come out later on thursday, but the idea that donald trump had to gross up michael cohen in order to make him whole for the payments as he is actually reimbursing him for what was being classified as payments for legal services, even though there had been no legal services rendered. so that's the given multi here. and i think what the prosecution is trying to show them, there's a lot of discussion of donald trump's hands and all of this is that he's very much a micro manager. he is taking really close looks at what the money is where the money is going to whom it is going. and this is just david pecker and michael cohen doing his bidding, but he is the mastermind, essentially the puppet master, and they are simply the puppets jeff, the prosecutor, questioning david pecker, noted today in court that the one in the election statutes, the case is based on does have a conspiracy provision. >> what does that send you about the way that the prosecution is trying to frame? we
and david pecker is testimony. i think it will come out later on thursday, but the idea that donald trump had to gross up michael cohen in order to make him whole for the payments as he is actually reimbursing him for what was being classified as payments for legal services, even though there had been no legal services rendered. so that's the given multi here. and i think what the prosecution is trying to show them, there's a lot of discussion of donald trump's hands and all of this is that...
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those are donald trump, david pecker would be alerted. he'd call michael cohen and asked michael cohen what to do. and michael cohen according to david pecker and will hear the cross-examine and what michael cohen has to say about this. but he would say well, let me call the boss and see what he wants to do with the karen mcdougal story with it? other stories. >> what do you want to do about this? >> ironically, this is the kind of scandal that the national enquirer, one of exposed in almost any other scenario. the enquirer had a history for all its flaws, for all of its faults of reporting on politicians on both sides of the aisle. for exposing scandals and controversies and polit politicians. >> words they didn't in this. >> example but instead pecker because he was go ahead, are long relationship with trump and saw a benefit to that enquirer decided to pick a horse, right aside to get in line with trump and create a pro-trump propaganda outlet, which is really what the enquirer was. but he's never fessed up to this until today in court
those are donald trump, david pecker would be alerted. he'd call michael cohen and asked michael cohen what to do. and michael cohen according to david pecker and will hear the cross-examine and what michael cohen has to say about this. but he would say well, let me call the boss and see what he wants to do with the karen mcdougal story with it? other stories. >> what do you want to do about this? >> ironically, this is the kind of scandal that the national enquirer, one of exposed...
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so after david pecker, yes. so we don't know the exact order yet. we're playing that sort of day by day. of course, we will hear from michael cohen, one of the big questions will be to what extent is their testimony consistent or inconsistent with one another? we probably will hear from stormy daniels, the recipient of the allegedly criminally covered up payments. we also may hear from hope hicks, who was involved in the trump campaign's efforts to rebound after that really damaging access hollywood tape. and we have already begun to see the prosecution introduce financial checks. they've introduced some of them but through david pecker, we're going to see, among other things, copies of the checks that donald trump row and some of them he signed in order to reimburse michael cohen what the prosecution is going to try to do. laura, which we did all the time, is build a case that is a latticework or everything overlaps and supports one another we'll see if the defense lawyers can poke holes in that. >> well, i'll see le come on back. thank you so much
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what was it about david pecker's testimony? >> you think? it's making him think if it's even necessary last week, you said he would testify. >> so i think that he he's he will throw whatever out whatever he wants to throw out there. right. >> don't i wouldn't read too much into it one day he's going to say he's testified and one de is got because he needs to defend himself the next day is going to say this case is bs and i don't need to testify because it's garbage. so you're going to hear that throughout the trial as especially as he absorbs the information day in and day out. >> i just i don't think you can give any any logical credence to the what he says about whether he testifies are not because i don't think i think at the end of the de is lawyers are gonna adamantly be against him testifying because there's a whole lot of stuff that's going to come out in the judge is going to allow it and he doesn't they're not going to want that in the public domain. standby. everyone, that very point figure out what the judge will actually limit te
what was it about david pecker's testimony? >> you think? it's making him think if it's even necessary last week, you said he would testify. >> so i think that he he's he will throw whatever out whatever he wants to throw out there. right. >> don't i wouldn't read too much into it one day he's going to say he's testified and one de is got because he needs to defend himself the next day is going to say this case is bs and i don't need to testify because it's garbage. so you're...
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so in terms of david david was granted a non-prosecution agreement, so he came forward and gave information as to what happened between donald trump admin. >> so well, as what happened with michael cohen in that the reason why prosecutors do is try to get essential information. prosecutors knew that in order to get to the bottom of this crime, they needed information from david now that non-prosecution agreement that immunity agreement is going to allow david to get the full story of what actually happened without any repercussions of pam possible i believe facing jail time, but instead, he'll be able to lay everything out for the prosecution. still a concern for the defense because the defense is going to try to discredit him and argue to the jury later on that the reason that he's making a fused luck is because he given a non-prosecution agreement until an order to avoid any kind of jail sentence as well good to have you on the program, but nada via luna, thanks so much free time. thank you you. can watch cnn's special coverage. >> all of the trump hush, money trial. it begins monday at 9
so in terms of david david was granted a non-prosecution agreement, so he came forward and gave information as to what happened between donald trump admin. >> so well, as what happened with michael cohen in that the reason why prosecutors do is try to get essential information. prosecutors knew that in order to get to the bottom of this crime, they needed information from david now that non-prosecution agreement that immunity agreement is going to allow david to get the full story of what...
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but david pecker walks in and he says that donald trump tells a joke, hey, this is david pecker. he's the chairman of the national enquirer, and he probably knows more than all of you in here. what got the laugh was then pecker said the other gentlemen, other and they didn't find it funny that nobody but trump's, but trump from smiled and the jurors and the court, those are in the court and the courtroom, how to laugh as well. so it was a funny moment. it was really the only time today that donald trump actually reacted to the testimony. i think we've seen throughout pecker's testimony, he really has tried not to react. >> he has been very controlled if he's not allegedly nodding off. >> yes. >> that's what that's what here. but i'll also say what came out today, which was important is not just that this was done allegedly for other people, but that there was a relationship with the enquirer, david pecker is about far back as 1990 h's. we'll call it fixing these stories far before for donald trump was the political icon. so there's, there's a history here. but to be clear, just b
but david pecker walks in and he says that donald trump tells a joke, hey, this is david pecker. he's the chairman of the national enquirer, and he probably knows more than all of you in here. what got the laugh was then pecker said the other gentlemen, other and they didn't find it funny that nobody but trump's, but trump from smiled and the jurors and the court, those are in the court and the courtroom, how to laugh as well. so it was a funny moment. it was really the only time today that...
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david pecker says yes. and in fact, in another place and david becker says, the first time he heard the phrase catch and kill was from investigators when they were asking him about this, they say before this investigation started, you had not heard the phrase catch and kill david becker says, that's correct. i thought but that was a very skillful cross-examining and good read write and even, even better you should have taken that law school. >> but anyway but isn't the answer. so what ultimately you know, he he covered up for other celebrities. they weren't running for president. he didn't pay $150,000. >> what was covered in her right? bottles, schwarzenegger he ran for governor at some point, but we don't know when or what he did for arnold schwarzenegger. this was so different from all those other search i'm not saying you're wrong from what i was told them, people in the courtroom today, it was very similar what he did for arnold schwarzenegger. >> in fact, there was a lot of examination to today on, on
david pecker says yes. and in fact, in another place and david becker says, the first time he heard the phrase catch and kill was from investigators when they were asking him about this, they say before this investigation started, you had not heard the phrase catch and kill david becker says, that's correct. i thought but that was a very skillful cross-examining and good read write and even, even better you should have taken that law school. >> but anyway but isn't the answer. so what...
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they're making the connection the david pecker and donald trump were friends david pecker, one point said, the defense attorneys are making the argument. yes. no, no, no, no. the prosecutor prosecutes because they wanted to say david pecker wouldn't be doing this to hurt donald trump. he liked it and he said at one point, i felt that donald trump was my mentor. he helped me throughout my career. i still consider them close even though we haven't spoken. i still consider him a friend. so trump's attorney or the defense attorney, emile bove, is asking you a series of questions since right now, if david pecker, the witness, about how prosecutors in fact prepared pecker to give, quote, consistent testimony. >> every time he's testified, david chatterley and some very interesting testimony not long ago this afternoon, we're david pecker recalled a phone conversation. he had with trump's white house team at the time according to mr. packer, hope hicks, and sarah huckabee sanders sara was the communications director or the press secretary, and hope x was a special assistant to the president
they're making the connection the david pecker and donald trump were friends david pecker, one point said, the defense attorneys are making the argument. yes. no, no, no, no. the prosecutor prosecutes because they wanted to say david pecker wouldn't be doing this to hurt donald trump. he liked it and he said at one point, i felt that donald trump was my mentor. he helped me throughout my career. i still consider them close even though we haven't spoken. i still consider him a friend. so trump's...
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let me start here with david pecker and then kind of go through some of the other witnesses. the prosecution. they spent several hours with him trying to get him to explain the process of these catch and kill. the defense then went and tried to undermine some of the testimony and the inconsistencies you said earlier to the fbi that trump did not. thank you. in january of 2017, during testimony, you said he did what's the value the impact of these inconsistencies on the larger question here of criminality victor, i don't think much impact on the map because really david pecker held his own and cross-examination from the defense. >> and remember, he's kind of friendly witness in a sense to trump in the sense that he still likes trump. he still knows trump. he's still admires him and all of that. he doesn't really want to be there. he's there under immunity and so when the defense sort of tries to pick apart his his story is really not much to pick apart. i mean, the exam apple that you gave about the fbi, noting one thing and him saying another really pretty minor in the whole
let me start here with david pecker and then kind of go through some of the other witnesses. the prosecution. they spent several hours with him trying to get him to explain the process of these catch and kill. the defense then went and tried to undermine some of the testimony and the inconsistencies you said earlier to the fbi that trump did not. thank you. in january of 2017, during testimony, you said he did what's the value the impact of these inconsistencies on the larger question here of...
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that's why david pecker, zero to sort of bolster him up. but that doesn't give donald trump the right to do what he is doing with that gag order, fight it out in the courtroom. let your tuner attorneys do their job, miss the were you surprised, judge merchan hasn't rendered an immediate decision on the gag order violations. yeah. >> i wasn't surprised because he's got to go through each individual instance, the prosecution is alleging and make a determination about whether or not that violates at an also think about what's the penalty going to be to send a message but not go too far. so i think we're having decision was what i would've expected. >> all right. misty marris, jeremy saland. thank you. so both you pecker described the tactics of quote, checkbook journalism and catch and kill. just how often that's used and why it's so specific to this case, that's next what is it about the titanic? >> why are we so obsessed with this ship every piece of evidence tells a story 50 years later? it's still leading people to her death. >> this speci
that's why david pecker, zero to sort of bolster him up. but that doesn't give donald trump the right to do what he is doing with that gag order, fight it out in the courtroom. let your tuner attorneys do their job, miss the were you surprised, judge merchan hasn't rendered an immediate decision on the gag order violations. yeah. >> i wasn't surprised because he's got to go through each individual instance, the prosecution is alleging and make a determination about whether or not that...
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york the former presidents trial continue with more testimony from his one-time friend and publisher david pecker. he described his role as suppressing the storieies and te affairs would donald trump. this photo shows pecker and the former president walking past the white house rose garden. the president asking him at that moment according to him, how is karen doing and he said he replied she is doing well, she is quiet, everything is going well. in another conversation he said he referred to dougal as our girl. he also suggested trump was angry about the interviews i did with her and stormy daniels. we will bring you excerpts from our coverage tonight. >> the supreme court oral arguments and the conservatives appeared to embrace some form of criminal immunity. the liberal minority by contrast focused on the temptation that might be for the future president if they have that. >> what i am more worried about you seem to be worried about the president being chilled. i think we would have a really significant opposite problem if the president wasn't chilled. if someone with those kinds of pow
york the former presidents trial continue with more testimony from his one-time friend and publisher david pecker. he described his role as suppressing the storieies and te affairs would donald trump. this photo shows pecker and the former president walking past the white house rose garden. the president asking him at that moment according to him, how is karen doing and he said he replied she is doing well, she is quiet, everything is going well. in another conversation he said he referred to...
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former national enquirer publisher, david pecker, on the stand. one court begins left us with a cliffhanger just beginning to talk about karen mcdougal, the playboy play he squashed the story, the allegation she had that she had a relationship with donald trump in of course, as soon as core begins this morning, we could learn the judge's ruling in the gag order against donald trump, whether trump has violated it. cnn's kristen holmes, outside the court, within an hour things can get very interesting, kristen yeah, that's right. >> and actually donald trump did a campaign stop earlier this morning. he stopped by construction site where he's talked to construction workers as well as union members. and i asked him particularly about david pecker. when was last time he spoke to a beggar. remember the two of them used to be very close. he wouldn't answer that question. i asked what he thought of the testimony so far all he would say is that he believed that pecker was a good guy, that he's been nice to him. and then essentially walked away after answer
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david was the first witness to be called shortly before he took the stand. prosecutors referred to him as a coconspirator for helping trump tried to cover up his alleged affair tomorrow before the jury returns to the courtroom, there'll be a hearing about the gag order in this case. prosecutors alleged that trump has violated his gag order over half a dozen times. and this gag order prevents trump from attacking people involved in this case, like witnesses and the jury. >> he is also barred from attacking family members prosecutors, and the judge, though we can freely attack the judge or the district attorney, alvin bragg. >> now, after that hearing, the jury will come back in the courtroom and davidai will be back on the stand. >> aaron, i paula, thank you very much there in lower manhattan and our experts are all here on set together right now. >> so joey jackson, let me start with you opening statements are crucial in some senses for many jurors, they'll say that's what made up their mind, right? they here at the beginning and then that becomes confirmati
david was the first witness to be called shortly before he took the stand. prosecutors referred to him as a coconspirator for helping trump tried to cover up his alleged affair tomorrow before the jury returns to the courtroom, there'll be a hearing about the gag order in this case. prosecutors alleged that trump has violated his gag order over half a dozen times. and this gag order prevents trump from attacking people involved in this case, like witnesses and the jury. >> he is also...
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and david pecker says, on the call, well, i didn't see that. and then they tried to pitch the story again, which was a negative story about trump and pecker again says, i didn't see that and they get this sense. move on, right? well and i wanted to editorial meetings of the national shall inquirer where they decided what was on the cover every week and pecker was very active in this. it was all about the cover for all about the cover. >> and they had lists of who sold and who didn't jennifer anniston sold jennifer lopez didn't sell. i don't know why, but that's true. they also had words that sold or didn't sell on the cover tragic last days, always sold. and also, the last days will live. i live in clinton, won one man were elected, but trump's sold. that was the thing that in addition to this, this may come out in cross-examination, that in addition to the fact that that pecker wanted to help trump that during the campaign 2015, 2016, trump was good for the inquire. that's what you're suggesting, abbe, in the sense that it was mutually benefic
and david pecker says, on the call, well, i didn't see that. and then they tried to pitch the story again, which was a negative story about trump and pecker again says, i didn't see that and they get this sense. move on, right? well and i wanted to editorial meetings of the national shall inquirer where they decided what was on the cover every week and pecker was very active in this. it was all about the cover for all about the cover. >> and they had lists of who sold and who didn't...
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david pecker says, when mr. trump called me, he said to me the same. he asked me if i saw the stormy daniels interview with anderson cooper. i said, yes, i did. he said that we have an agreement with stormy daniels that she cannot mention my name or do anything like this in each time she breaches the agreement, it's $1 million penalty. and based on the interview with anderson cooper, stormy daniels, ols, donald trump, donald trump talking about himself 24 million josh steinglass says, that's what donald trump told you. pecker. that's what he told me i'm jeff. >> you recently interviewed stormy daniels. does she there is some money. she'll well, it's a desperate problem for stormy daniels when she was represented by michael avenatti of blessed memory suu donald trump on her behalf for defamation. that case was not only thrown out of court, but the judge in california awarded attorney's fees to donald trump because the judge said the case was frivolous those were assessed against the client. stormy daniels, not against the lawyer. that debt which has bee
david pecker says, when mr. trump called me, he said to me the same. he asked me if i saw the stormy daniels interview with anderson cooper. i said, yes, i did. he said that we have an agreement with stormy daniels that she cannot mention my name or do anything like this in each time she breaches the agreement, it's $1 million penalty. and based on the interview with anderson cooper, stormy daniels, ols, donald trump, donald trump talking about himself 24 million josh steinglass says, that's...
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i raised david pecker, asieh, what he thought at the testimony asked the last time talked to david pecker, you just said that pecker was a nice guy. ladies and please, with the testimony, but he also talked about those critical immunity arguments. take a listen. >> we have a big case today. this the judges and on me to go. we have a big case in the supreme court or presidential immunity. a president he stab immunity if you don't have a unit, you just have a ceremonial president he also said that the supreme court justices were smart at one point, said, sounded like he was saying that they we're going to do the right thing or he believed that they would do the right thing. >> but again all of this, he's making his campaign stop because of the fact that he is in court now four days a week and they are trying to figure out ways to keep them engaged with voters. they believe that this is very important for him and they'd become resigned to the fact that this is what the next several weeks is going to look like. so today, they did this pre courts stop meeting with working class voters kristen.
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the first witness that will be david. he's going to be called as a witness for the prosecution. he is the former chairman of the cup publishing company that was publishing the national enquirer and is a person who has agreed to cooperate, got to deal with prosecutors, and is stepping up at this time to speak about not very likely what he knows of catch and kill schemes. these schemes in 2016 that donald trump and his campaign, we're interested in& his personal attorney, michael cohen, we're interested in to collect negative stories about donald trump, put money toward the people who had those stories, whose those stories where there's to tell and silence lins them, a very big thing, not just for stormy daniels, who is at the core of this falsification of business records case, but also for other witnesses who are likely to be called to testify against the former president kalen, how long will the opening statements be? do we know? >> a little bit more on david because you said he reached in an immunity deal with federal prosecutors. >> what is it that he has admitted or conceded
the first witness that will be david. he's going to be called as a witness for the prosecution. he is the former chairman of the cup publishing company that was publishing the national enquirer and is a person who has agreed to cooperate, got to deal with prosecutors, and is stepping up at this time to speak about not very likely what he knows of catch and kill schemes. these schemes in 2016 that donald trump and his campaign, we're interested in& his personal attorney, michael cohen, we're...
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tomorrow david perker will be back on the stand. trump's lawyers will continue to cross-examine him he could be on the stand for an additional several hours. historically wrapping up this week in the trial. >> thank you outside of the courtroom in lower manhattan the experts are with us. you work for many years with david perker, and you heard donald trump praising him today. he has attacked everybody else. he praises perker, they are still friends, what do you think is going on here? >> well i think that trump is very smart with people. perker has so much on him that we haven't even scratched the surface and if he has gone after him the way he has gone after their enemies there is a good chance that perker who doesn't want to be cornered, would strike back and say well you say this to me and i will go out with this. so by being nice to him he is putting out the fire before it starts. >> jeremy, when you were in the court room and you watched all of this, perker testified and you watch under direct and cross, and donald trump bridgi
tomorrow david perker will be back on the stand. trump's lawyers will continue to cross-examine him he could be on the stand for an additional several hours. historically wrapping up this week in the trial. >> thank you outside of the courtroom in lower manhattan the experts are with us. you work for many years with david perker, and you heard donald trump praising him today. he has attacked everybody else. he praises perker, they are still friends, what do you think is going on here?...
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and david pecker. so we'll see if we could see a second witness begin to take the stand even tomorrow afternoon, even better. >> one of the questions one of the first questions they asked for comments was so ami isn't a charity organization, is you're making a profit off of all of this really making him seem like this is about greed and that's all to get the jury thinking that they don't like this person. >> yeah. important point. it was interesting. i thought that kaitlyn that david pecker testified about a call with two top white house staffers at the time who picks and sarah huckabee sanders would that reveal as someone who covered the white house and remembers sarah sanders being at the white house briefing room where obviously all three of us have sat at one point, she had to deny allegations about karen mcdougal citing conversations that she had with donald trump to hear that review still today that there was a call with the national enquirer tabloid king, hope hicks and sarah sanders while they
and david pecker. so we'll see if we could see a second witness begin to take the stand even tomorrow afternoon, even better. >> one of the questions one of the first questions they asked for comments was so ami isn't a charity organization, is you're making a profit off of all of this really making him seem like this is about greed and that's all to get the jury thinking that they don't like this person. >> yeah. important point. it was interesting. i thought that kaitlyn that...
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so the last question asked of david pecker today was, does he believe trump does david pecker believes that donald trump cares about his family, right? there have been a lot of questions about why trump would do these things. was it to protect his family or as pecker said? was it for the campaign, but the last question, does trump care about his family? pecker replies, quote, of of course i do think that cares about his family. that surprised you very much so because trump thinks about trump and his family clearly throughout all this is almost been window the dressing just so it makes him look like he's a family guy, but his focus is always been what's best for me. >> that's why he picks the pupil who works with and that's why he's been doing when he just doing with the power play. so the family for politician, obviously it's unnecessary optic to have but his feeling towards them. no, they're just tools for him to advance his own cause and that moment surprised you mean bernardo at the end of the testimony of david pecker and i guess it's in a sense, it's hard to put it together hi the
so the last question asked of david pecker today was, does he believe trump does david pecker believes that donald trump cares about his family, right? there have been a lot of questions about why trump would do these things. was it to protect his family or as pecker said? was it for the campaign, but the last question, does trump care about his family? pecker replies, quote, of of course i do think that cares about his family. that surprised you very much so because trump thinks about trump...
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pecker the ceo of the national enquirer's, an individual named david pecker well, david, his good friends with donald trump. >> they have a friendship that goes back for many years. in fact, the national enquirer has endorsed donald trump, has said he must be president i had nothing to do with the national enquirer story. and frankly, i hope it's not true because it's pretty bad so ted cruz got one thing wrong in the extended version of those comments, which was he implied it was roger stone who is acting as the emissary with david pecker and donald trump, obviously as we now know, and we'll hear from him on the witness stand. >> it was my phil cohen who is doing all of this. >> but what ted cruz got closer to than really anyone did at that time was that relationship between the two of them and it then it was not a known entity, a known quantity like it is now, like we saw the details coming out and you saw donald trump also doing other interviews about the claim that ted cruz is father was fault with lee harvey oswald trump would go on tv and say, well, the national enquirer has gotten o
pecker the ceo of the national enquirer's, an individual named david pecker well, david, his good friends with donald trump. >> they have a friendship that goes back for many years. in fact, the national enquirer has endorsed donald trump, has said he must be president i had nothing to do with the national enquirer story. and frankly, i hope it's not true because it's pretty bad so ted cruz got one thing wrong in the extended version of those comments, which was he implied it was roger...
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>> well, david is very unique individuals that he focuses on what is good for david he fully recognized that the eyes of the media, we're on him, any interaction with trump while he was testifying? and so he couldn't help himself knowing him not to say hi, and smile at trump and leave the ball in trump's court to respond, which he didn't no, he did and that that in and of itself is fascinating. >> so you say, just as the context that is so crucial here in terms of what packers is going to be saying on the stand tomorrow, and trump, you've described to us as quote, unquote clones tell me what you mean. so well, they operate very similarly. just says, trump has been renowned as we saw during his eight years, unfortunately, as president, he pitted a lot of his colleagues in a circle against each other. he would say one thing to one and say one thing to the other and see how they communicated with david operates the same way. i don't want to use the word bullet, but that's totally does apply to how he operates and as his communications head, i was there for a lot of those game-playing that
>> well, david is very unique individuals that he focuses on what is good for david he fully recognized that the eyes of the media, we're on him, any interaction with trump while he was testifying? and so he couldn't help himself knowing him not to say hi, and smile at trump and leave the ball in trump's court to respond, which he didn't no, he did and that that in and of itself is fascinating. >> so you say, just as the context that is so crucial here in terms of what packers is...
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pecker helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable. so mendel, he was engaging in these catching kill schemes and when we go into a supermarket used to see the national enquirer be like, oh, my god. and now we know how that gets to be the front page of the paper. you got the information that this is exactly how it worked out when it came to donald trump and when it came to michael cohen. and this is something that i think the jury in plain terms, are able to digest and they don't know how to apply this information. but shortly after closing arguments and though extra read back to get more of his testimony, read back, there'll be able to put it all toge
pecker helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable....
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pretty compelling. >> david essentially made a deal. i mean, non-profit has a non-prosecution agreement and so that's why i mean, he testified. >> yeah, he's testifying under subpoena. i mean, he is not doing this because he wasn't he was prosecutor say he's coconspirator act. he is not there because he wants to be there. but the prosecutors are going to try to suggest that he is testimony those same way they're going to try to say this with michael cohen is credible for xyz reasons & that these are things trump just didn't want to have come out the the fence that foreign president has no family with him, no friends. >> he's just got his legal the team understand he was he he talked about this. he was upset about the lack of proximity of supporters outside the courthouse. >> yeah. so it has been striking that there's no family because i know that there was some discussion at some point in those couple of weeks about who would be with him in court. and last week, which was just jury selection, there weren't that many people today. there
pretty compelling. >> david essentially made a deal. i mean, non-profit has a non-prosecution agreement and so that's why i mean, he testified. >> yeah, he's testifying under subpoena. i mean, he is not doing this because he wasn't he was prosecutor say he's coconspirator act. he is not there because he wants to be there. but the prosecutors are going to try to suggest that he is testimony those same way they're going to try to say this with michael cohen is credible for xyz reasons...